All four shock bodies double tapped, can't put the shock collars on. The skid plate cooled warped and twisted in two directions, can't put passenger rail on the side, nor get the transmission in the truck. The rear axle assembly was supplied with one rear stub axle and one front stub axle - the rear axle can't be completed.
Can't give it any stars...all three errors stop this kit from being completed.
In thirty-five years of building kits, by far the worst I've experienced - $500.00 kit? Contacted the company minutes after finding the stub axle missing and it's been more than a week from a "part is being ordered." The shock and skid plate issue, I didn't bother mentioning, I'll pay for replacements when available, finish the build and sell the truck with unpainted body. Pretty sure it's not a wide spread issue with this kit, but this is has been my experience.
Fifth Vanquish kit, three have had pretty serious quality issues - this will be my last.
More like 2.5 stars. Instructions were HORRIBLE about as bad as the Capra kit instructions (ifykyk) It went together ok for me, but I imagine if this was my first kit it would be a nightmare.
Shock collars are made of a soft plastic that likes to cross thread. I gave up and bought Traxxas shock collars which threaded on with some resistance. The truck looks nice, the DIG is so much better than Axial's DIG. The selectable OD is a cool feature (there are you 2.5 stars) BUT on the third time out, teeth broke off of both idler gears. Sheared clean off, poor quality steel. I get that Vanquish tried to hit a price point to compete with Axial and Element, but both companies make a better quality kit overall for significantly less money. Perhaps VP should stick to the high end (where they absolutely kill it apparently) and leave the mid market to the big companies who have been doing this for a while.
These issues would be relatively minor if it out performed my other rigs, but it does not. My Capra is a significantly better crawler. Had I known then what I know now, I think I would've skipped purchasing the VP Phoenix. Money would've been much better spent elsewhere
Really cool kit overall. This is my first crawler. I’m giving it 4 stars due to the poor shock collar design and multiple errors in the instruction manual.
My honest opinion of the VS410 Phoenix. Quality is amazing, everything went together smoothly, even though its mostly plastic. Build was fairly straightforward, but here are a few tips: There are a few mis-prints so be sure to pay close attention to photos, online manual is updated. This kit WILL require specific size servo horns, not included with kit. The steering horn is 20mm and the shift horns are 24mm, make sure the horn works with the servo of your choosing, vanquish uses 25t splines. Shock collars are plastic, this is probably the most frustrating part of the build. They cross thread real easily! Use another shock collar to help you line up the collars with shock body threads. Also use your shims! They include a few but my rear output had at least 5mm play, too much for my liking and had to order extras shims. Vehicle only takes 540 can motors, nothing bigger. Hobby Wing/ Spectrums Fusions esc/motors is too big to fit. Non-Vanquish owners, stub axles are 5mm and not 4mm, your beadlocks may or may not fit depending on the hub. My Gearhead beadlocks were a drop in fit with no modifications.
Onto truck performance, in stock form, it drives like a pig. My friends stock Ecto did better than mine. Tires are narrow and not very sticky, better as trail tires. Truck is quite tippy, I am not sure if its because of the shorter 80mm shocks. Recommend heavier wheels, tires and shock oil. Steering angle is pretty amazing combined with OD it turns pretty sharp. It has RWD also, pretty fun for light bashing. Also recommend a shorty pack as the 4000 mah packs weigh the truck down shifting weight to the back axles. Still love my Phoenix though, fun part is trying to improve the truck little by little! Hoping to see a straight axle Phoenix or portal delete option soon!
Vanquish VS4-10 Phoenix kit. Nice kit, very durable plastic material. I would say the quality of the plastic is higher than your average RC car/crawler. Much more detail of course it being a vanquish product. The quality of the portals are made to last a very long time and the brass sleeves are an awesome idea. Shocks are ok. You always loose that travel with portals. It was a nightmare getting the spring adjusters threaded on however the shocks work just fine (Use a little grease) I love the hinged body. Battery tray is towards the back so you need to ad some weight up front. Preferably on the wheels. Transmission is solid and works great. Wheels and tires I used my own aluminum bead locks with brass hubs. Looks and detail of the body is very nice. I bought a Land Cruiser grill from KC that is a direct fit. Overall I’m happy with it. And the price is right. I would like to see the same kit with straight axles.
Great kit!! Went together well direction could use some work since there are options that they don’t go over.
This is my first rock crawler so I don't have too much to compare it against, but I do agree with some previous reviews. I got the kit because it looked solid and was noticeably different from the other crawlers I see out there, with a neat transmission and body. Shock collars are VERY finnicky about getting threaded on straight. Take your time and look at the collar as it first goes on. If it's crooked, back it off and try engaging at a different point. Instructions were generally fine, but were missing some steps, such as slipper tightening suggestions. I'm not as impressed with the body mount system as some poeple are, I find it finnicky and frustrating to get the clips on and off since they're hidden and hard to get fingers to. I've already broken one idler in the transmission, likely because my slipper was too tight. Vanquish replaced the gear so quite happy with that customer service. The tires that come in the kit aren't great for rock crawling, I feel like they could have cut the cost of the kit even more by letting people pick their own wheels/tires. Repair access doesn't seem great, I have to take a bunch of things apart to get the transmission out. Finally, the body heavy so cg is high, so out of the box it's not going to be a great performer. I swapped wheels/tires (Rock Beasts, CI foams soft in front/ firm in rear), added some brass wheel rings and it made a huge difference. The transmission is cool, despite the broken gear, and the DIG is fast and easy to engage. OD and 2wd is pretty cool, especially if you're trail running. I haven't notice a huge difference between OD and regular 4WD, but I'm also a novice to rock crawling. I'm running a 2700kv Holmes Puller pro with Mamba X and I think I may have gone with a slightly higher kv motor if I had to pick again. It's decently quick, but a stock TRX4 sport will outrun it. Generally I'm happy with the kit, but it's still at a premium price for something that isn't a stunning performer out of the box.
The chassis is excellent, but you need to find the manual on Vanquish’s website for correct instructions.
You will need to stretch the shock collars by placing a needle nose pliers inside each collar and pulling the sides apart to get the collars to thread onto the shock bodies.
Plan on spending more time on this kit, be patient and you will get results.
Fantastic kit. I took it slowly and had no issues other than my own misunderstandings which I easily resolved. Instruction book was pretty good though I can see how some steps could be interpreted in different ways, take your time an double check each step. Yes the shock collars were too tight but a quick blast with a hair dryer they went on without a fight in about 2 mins total. Very tight chassis layout so you will need to do your research on what components you select. It is tight for a reason though, absolute performance out of the box, though I can't speak for the hardcore rock guys as we do mainly bush bashing/ hill climb stuff here. Stock tyres are pretty dang good, for a more than usable set of spares at the least. Endless fun with all the shifting options. I own an axial SCX 10 iii which is great but this is definitely the next level in terms of quality and performance.
This is not a good kit as the "top reviewers" on YouTube make it out to be. Cheap plastic that's warped, shock collars don't fit, beadlock wheels are junk, cannot tighten to hub, rod ends that stretch out of shape and a lot of stupid mistakes in the instruction manual. Really Vanquish?
For $500 I have to buy parts from other manufacturers? The body is very cool though. Get a Traxxas Sport kit instead if you're just starting out! I know, 2 speed and dig...
I bought this rig when I heard about the transmission. Now that I've built and ran it I like it.
Would I do it again - NO.
I've got $1100 in this rig, probably a bit more. You could buy 2 TRX4 Broncos for that money. Just add an overdrive to the front axel and you'd be very close to the VS4-10 for 1/2 the money. I have the TRX4 Bronco it is excellent.
The shock spring collars are a disaster. Couldn't believe Vanquish let that pass their QC. I did write Vanquish and they did send me new collars no charge.
Kit was well put together, as my first kit I feel everything went together smoothly other than I had an e-clip go flying off and never found it. I was able to get a replacement at the local hardware store. Instructions could have been more clear on what parts were optional or for future steps but I was able to get everything together and working wonderfully.
Excellent kit, one very minor issue with the shock collar threads but with a little patience they weren’t a problem, everything else fit great. Plastic is great, not rubber like at all. They even included shims for the outside of the axle pinions.
The Phoenix is another great product from vanquish, they never disappoint.
I will say this is an absolutely amazing truck, but unfortunately the build experience does leave some to be desired. Be sure you go on vanquish's site and get the updated instructions.
Also take the time to set the endpoints up properly before driving hard, the last thing you want to do it damage the transmission. Once you have the points set correctly, the vfd works perfectly. Time will tell if there are any weak point in it.
Legit kit. Very impressed with the quality. Building it one step at a time. I haven’t run it yet so it gets 5 stars for superb quality. Follow me on IG Botas.45rc to see it complete.
Once again vanquish has done it a great kit and this time at a great price. The build and performance of this truck is fantastic. I would highly recommend all rc enthusiasts to buy this kit.
Very nice quality kit. Will make a perfect addition. Looks good next to my vanquish ultra. Will test it very very hard and will change review if have to. Amain is awesome priced fast shipping great customer service as well.
Great kit as always from Vanquish..
Kit went together smoothly and fitment was great as all VP kits I have built do.
One thing that needs addressed is the plastic shock spring perches are flimsy and none of mine threaded on correctly, all of them cross threaded no matter what i did.
IT WILL TAKE THE NEW SPEKTRUM 2 in1 SYSTEM….But will not fit the HW Fusion.
Overall excellent crawler and another VP truck added to my collection,
So much quality and so many features.
Build was great and fun. From detailed build book to high quality parts and materials, this kit has it all covered. I like that wheels ans tires are included as well.
Note that you will need specific lengths of servo arms to run steering, shift and dig features so look them up and buy when you purchase this kit!
