I don't have a dog in this fight other than I have personal experience with this product (purchased through the Kickstarter campaign). To say that this is comparable to a metal box from the dollar store is simply an ignorant statement. It is actually a well engineered and manufactured product designed by an engineer (and RC pilot) who has professional experience in fire containment systems and who came up with the idea after experiencing a lipo fire personally. When used as intended it is designed and tested to actually contain a lipo fire and a majority of the hazardous byproducts that occur as a result.
Yes, $60 is a lot more than a lipo bag but personally I do not believe that a lipo bag will mitigate a potential issue as effectively as this would taking into account not only the flame and heat but also the nasty and messy combustion byproducts. Also, Lipo bags last a few years whereas I expect the Bat-Safe would last pretty much forever. I use lipo bags for storage and am careful to store batteries at appropriate charge levels to minimize potential hazards but use the Bat-Safe when actually charging.
To a large extent it is like purchasing insurance. We all pay for insurance in the hopes that we never have to "get our monies worth" and, while you can select a wide range of insurers and pay a wide range of costs, you don't really find out how good it is until you actually have to use it (and then you sometimes find out that you got what you paid for)....
There are two types of LiPo users - those who have seen a LiPo fire, and those who will see a LiPo fire. They arent pretty and will destroy anything they contact. Hopefully you dont have to deal with the damage first hand. If you search the Bat-Safe on youtube, you can see that it does in fact do everything they claim - it will contain the fire from batteries as large as 12S - 5000mah. Unlike a metal box, these are vented and will not blow up on you (like an ammo can), are insulated (so you can handle them while the battery is burning inside), and have a filter system (prevents the soot and odor emitted from a LiPo fire from damaging the room where the battery fire happens). The Bat-Safe is cheap insurance to protect your home and valuables from the irreversible damage caused by a battery fire. And FYI - Kick starter prices were for those who believed in the product and were willing to jump on board early - like me. My only regret was not getting more! I need two more Bat-safes to store all my LiPos.
I purchased a bat safe after seeing it on amain's main page. I had never heard of the item before but was curious about it. I thought $60 seemed a little high but bought one anyway. After receiving it I feel the price point is valid. It's a double walled metal box with insulation between the walls and lid. It has a fiberglass seal like a wood burning stove. I hope I don't have to see if it does what it claims but I can recommend it to anyone that wants peace of mind storing their lipos. It is also much larger than I expected. My only criticism is the paint scheme takes away from the products quality. I hope this helps anyone on the fence with this product.
You guys whining about it cost to much and an ammo box is fine should go here.
I don't know about you but my house is worth more than $60.
What's with all the hate about the price? If you don't have $60 to buy something nice then just keep your mouth shut. This is a very nice piece of protection and it's a lot more than just a cheap metal box. This manufacturer has produced something that could save someones house from burning down. That $60 doesn't seem like much to pay for this level of insurance.
Perfect investment for the money, industrial standard.
Good charging / storage box for my LiPo batteries. My only gripe is it would have been better if they shipped these with a set of the balance board leads included in the box.
Best piece of mind for those of us with lots of small batteries. Most of the negative reviews strike me as being amusingly ignorant.
I like the idea of this product, and I don’t mind the price for what it does. However, there doesn’t seem to be any quality in their manufacturering. I received my first one and the lid was out of alignment and one bracket was pulled away from the case. Amain swapped it out, but the second one had the same issue. At that point 3 weeks passed, Amain said I could send it back again, but the hassle and additional 2 weeks it would take to get another one wasn’t worth it to me. Hopefully if I ever have a fire the case will contain it, I say that because of the seal on the lid doesn’t look good from being out of alignment. Maybe I am being picky, but when manufacturers pack items up like that it’s hard to trust their products. I am just saying, think about it! Also, I sent a message to the manufacturer 7 days ago and have not heard anything.
Although LiPo fires are relatively rare, I'm not willing to take a chance of endangering myself or my family! This product is well-designed, well-constructed, and its ability to contain LiPo fires and toxic gases is well-documented in various YouTube videos. This product may be used to safely charge or store LiPo batteries and comes with an instruction manual which should be carefully read to ensure it is placed in a safe location during its use. What is not covered in the instruction manual is the limit on the number of batteries you can safely store (they simply state "Maximum charging/storage capability: 2x 6S 5000 mAh Lipo"). To calculate the Wh of your individual battery, take the nominal voltage (3.8 per cell for a LiPo at normal storage) and multiply it by the amp hours (mAh divided by 1000). For example, a 3S 2200mAh battery is 3 cells × 3.8V × 2.2Ah = 25.08Wh. Perform this calculation for every battery you intend to store in your Bat-Safe, and the sum of the batteries you intend to store must NEVER exceed 222Wh.
I’ve had my two Bat Safes for about a year now and feel safe storing my batteries. I don’t plan on a fire, but if there is one I want it contained in this box. Quality is pretty good, with a little movement in the latches, but it is secure. I like the Double wall construction with filtering in the top.
Much better than a Covered cinder block, ceramic pot, or LiPo bag. I have these too.
I would buy the Bat Safe again.
I like the product. Use to charge two batteries in parallel at the same time of 5000mah 3s for my e-Revo. Also, I leave other batteries stocked inside this box when I'm not using it. The safe has a good finish and gives me security. Thank God I have not used it for its final purpose but I believe it to be like an Air Bag, it is good to have and to use. Unfortunately the product is out of stock why not buy again. The only thing missing for him to be perfect is a system that holds the lid open, like the hood of a car ... Anyway, I recommend yes!
Safest option i have seen. Wish they offered more sizes or a large divided version for storing.
UPDATE: After posting this i read other comments from people who obviously dont own the product.
I can say this is not just a simple tin can with some holes in it. Yes it is a little more expensive than i'd like but it's a lot cheaper than the destruction of a thermal runaway! Mine delivered without defects and has what i would say is adequate venting and insulation. I am not an expert in energy storage but i have spent majority of my career working directly with one of the leaders and Lipo's are not to be taken for granted especially in the cheaper RC industry where most if not all cells are sourced from lower tier suppliers.
4.5 stars for build quality (see note below)
4 stars for price/value
5+ stars for piece of mind
I just received my Bat-Safe and I am impressed. It appears to be well constructed and arrived in good condition. I confess to owning several cheap batteries from another vendor, so I wanted a safe place to store and charge them. After watching several test videos on YT, I was sold. Until now I only had a lipo bag. This provides a bit more comfort in knowing my home and family is better protected.
Is it better than an ammo can or other homemade solutions? No idea. The videos seem to show it is better, but you be the judge. However, $60 was a small price to pay for the convenience the box provides.
Only minor issue is the lid hinges are a bit large and they had to use spacers to attach them to the box (not the lid portion). There is a lip that runs around the entire box and the hinge is just too wide to fit in-between that ant the top of the box, therefore the spacers. This in no way impacts the use or function of the box, just a small detail.
Love this thing helps me to sleep better and almost all my batteries go into it BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY
Better safe than sorry. I wouldn't charge without one!!
Only had to watch a few youtube videos to convince me that this is a necessity in my rc collection, love all the r&d that went into it, a little lunchboxy in its construction method and a few things could be more refined but its got it where it counts for the price! The latch is heavy duty! The wire grommet seems durable and high quality! Great engineering!
$60 does seem rather high for this item, I can see $30
Created by Tom Mast from Texas was selling for 40 bucks on Kickstarter.
You can just use an ammo can and drill holes in it.
Really?! Great that it works. So does a lipo bag. Fanboys all posting positive reviews on the exact same day, doesn't seem fishy at all. $60?! For a vented lunchbox...